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		<title>Comment on Da Vinci is Dead! by "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" &#171; Analysist</title>
		<link>http://sage7.wordpress.com/2006/05/20/da-vinci-is-dead/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>"Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" &#171; Analysist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 04:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apostasy Bill Calls for Death to Converts from Islam - Christian Newswire n addition to life in prison or death, offenders yield all properties in their name to Muslim relatives and forfeit custody of any minor or biological child under their care.Davinci is Dead [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apostasy Bill Calls for Death to Converts from Islam &#8211; Christian Newswire n addition to life in prison or death, offenders yield all properties in their name to Muslim relatives and forfeit custody of any minor or biological child under their care.Davinci is Dead [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chicken or the Egg by Russ in COS</title>
		<link>http://sage7.wordpress.com/2006/05/23/chicken-or-the-egg/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ in COS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 21:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ask a similar question here:
http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/hizkids/  Code Words.
cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ask a similar question here:<br />
<a href="http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/hizkids/" rel="nofollow">http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/hizkids/</a>  Code Words.<br />
cheers</p>
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		<title>Comment on Da Vinci is Dead! by Andrew</title>
		<link>http://sage7.wordpress.com/2006/05/20/da-vinci-is-dead/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 17:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion actually means that the state can&#039;t create or enforce a religion on us as american citizens, which was one of the provisions that the founding fathers wanted to inculcate into American culture.  They were fleeing religious persecution in England and Northern Europe and wanted no part of a government or overarching clergy that would impose a religion upon them for political, superstitious, or economic reasons. 
     Coercion Test: Most closely identified with justice Kennedy,this test allows government to &quot;recognize&quot; or &quot;accomodate&quot; religion, but bars any policy that coerces anyone to    support or participate in any religion or religious exercise... 
American Constitutional Law: Introductory Essays and selected Cases,  Alpheus Tomas Mason and Donald Grier Stephenson, Jr.  1999, Simon and Schuster, New Jersey.
 

Basically, in the context of the article, the establishment clause states that we are &quot;Free from Islam&quot; or any other religion should we choose to be so.  It also means that we have the freedom and right to choose a religion should we choose to do so and protects our right to assemble as a religious entity.  I agree that there are certain interpretations that would make the &quot;from&quot; as opposed to &quot;of&quot; seem scary to Christians because those interpretations give the supreme court certain un-inalienable rights, so we set up inhibitions to the &quot;from&quot; to &quot;protect&quot; ourselves, but with the coercion clause it can actually mean both, and as Christians, instead of putting up &quot;protective Road-blocks&quot;  we should fight for the Right.  In the long run, sometimes taking the easy way, isn&#039;t the easy way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion actually means that the state can&#8217;t create or enforce a religion on us as american citizens, which was one of the provisions that the founding fathers wanted to inculcate into American culture.  They were fleeing religious persecution in England and Northern Europe and wanted no part of a government or overarching clergy that would impose a religion upon them for political, superstitious, or economic reasons.<br />
     Coercion Test: Most closely identified with justice Kennedy,this test allows government to &#8220;recognize&#8221; or &#8220;accomodate&#8221; religion, but bars any policy that coerces anyone to    support or participate in any religion or religious exercise&#8230;<br />
American Constitutional Law: Introductory Essays and selected Cases,  Alpheus Tomas Mason and Donald Grier Stephenson, Jr.  1999, Simon and Schuster, New Jersey.</p>
<p>Basically, in the context of the article, the establishment clause states that we are &#8220;Free from Islam&#8221; or any other religion should we choose to be so.  It also means that we have the freedom and right to choose a religion should we choose to do so and protects our right to assemble as a religious entity.  I agree that there are certain interpretations that would make the &#8220;from&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;of&#8221; seem scary to Christians because those interpretations give the supreme court certain un-inalienable rights, so we set up inhibitions to the &#8220;from&#8221; to &#8220;protect&#8221; ourselves, but with the coercion clause it can actually mean both, and as Christians, instead of putting up &#8220;protective Road-blocks&#8221;  we should fight for the Right.  In the long run, sometimes taking the easy way, isn&#8217;t the easy way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Da Vinci is Dead! by Steve</title>
		<link>http://sage7.wordpress.com/2006/05/20/da-vinci-is-dead/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 17:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting and good...still, I need to point out something from this quote:


Thirteen Centuries of religious repression is resurfacing.  We in America sit here with our &quot;Bill&quot; that says we have freedom from religion, which protects us, at least until some supreme court farce &#039;re-interprets&#039; our rights as United States Citizens, and the incipient infusion of Islam becomes acceptable. 


It&#039;s not freedom from religion. 
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There&#039;s a Freedom From Religion Foundation organization that by it&#039;s very name blurs this distinction and foists atheism upon us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting and good&#8230;still, I need to point out something from this quote:</p>
<p>Thirteen Centuries of religious repression is resurfacing.  We in America sit here with our &#8220;Bill&#8221; that says we have freedom from religion, which protects us, at least until some supreme court farce &#8216;re-interprets&#8217; our rights as United States Citizens, and the incipient infusion of Islam becomes acceptable. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not freedom from religion.<br />
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a Freedom From Religion Foundation organization that by it&#8217;s very name blurs this distinction and foists atheism upon us all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Second Rate Citizens by Colorado Conservative</title>
		<link>http://sage7.wordpress.com/2006/05/19/second-rate-citizens/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Colorado Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 18:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only difference is a ribbon and wearing little stars of David that say &quot;Juden&quot; on them. Remember those notes plastered on the back of the nerd in high school that said &quot;kick me&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only difference is a ribbon and wearing little stars of David that say &#8220;Juden&#8221; on them. Remember those notes plastered on the back of the nerd in high school that said &#8220;kick me&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kowtow by Russ in COS</title>
		<link>http://sage7.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/kowtow/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ in COS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 17:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,
I&#039;ve been trying to figure out how/why the Islamists get away with, literally, murder around the world and don&#039;t seem to be held accountable to anyone for it. We hear about the deaths, but we never seem to hear about arrests, trials, &amp; punishments.  Are they, or are they not happening?  Weird. 
I think one of the major contributing reasons is this: the Islamist behavior displays are a logical end-point to relativistic thinking. For over 40 years EVERY society has been bombarded with &quot;well, that&#039;s ok for you, but I&#039;m gonna do this&quot; and &quot;you can&#039;t ever &quot;judge&quot; anyones culture as &quot;bad,&quot; why that&#039;s barbaric&quot;, etc etc etc. So, when a sub-culture openly displays its total disregard for life, we have been conditioned to not object, not judge, not even look. 
We&#039;ve been thinking like this about the conditions all over Africa for years: tribal warfare (Oh well, it&#039;s just another bunch of spear-throwing, Nat&#039;l Geographic-looking natives on the warpath again.), FGM (why, that&#039;s a RELIGIOUS thing; we can&#039;t judge/discuss those practices.); Some sects STILL burn new widows in India...on and on and on. Non-judgmental, appeasing....hmmm, a new thought. This may be important, or not.... 
Even though America &quot;rules&quot; the world, most people only want our results, our material prosperity. They don&#039;t seem to want or be able to assimilate our &quot;values,&quot; &quot;principles&quot; or &quot;morals.&quot; It seems, the rest of world prefers to adopt the Franco-European mindset for those things: non-judgmental appeasement. Therefore, even as we in America who live by the Immutable Lawgiver, we are a distinct, almost statistically insignificant, minority in the world&#039;s arena of determing behavior-value. Our temporal, cultural clout is nil, and we watch-rightfully in horror-as the Islamist do the things they do &amp; not get called on it.  The rest of the world is, subconsciously and voluntarily, incapable of rendering any kind of value judgment on that behavior.
for what it&#039;s worth....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,<br />
I&#8217;ve been trying to figure out how/why the Islamists get away with, literally, murder around the world and don&#8217;t seem to be held accountable to anyone for it. We hear about the deaths, but we never seem to hear about arrests, trials, &amp; punishments.  Are they, or are they not happening?  Weird.<br />
I think one of the major contributing reasons is this: the Islamist behavior displays are a logical end-point to relativistic thinking. For over 40 years EVERY society has been bombarded with &#8220;well, that&#8217;s ok for you, but I&#8217;m gonna do this&#8221; and &#8220;you can&#8217;t ever &#8220;judge&#8221; anyones culture as &#8220;bad,&#8221; why that&#8217;s barbaric&#8221;, etc etc etc. So, when a sub-culture openly displays its total disregard for life, we have been conditioned to not object, not judge, not even look.<br />
We&#8217;ve been thinking like this about the conditions all over Africa for years: tribal warfare (Oh well, it&#8217;s just another bunch of spear-throwing, Nat&#8217;l Geographic-looking natives on the warpath again.), FGM (why, that&#8217;s a RELIGIOUS thing; we can&#8217;t judge/discuss those practices.); Some sects STILL burn new widows in India&#8230;on and on and on. Non-judgmental, appeasing&#8230;.hmmm, a new thought. This may be important, or not&#8230;.<br />
Even though America &#8220;rules&#8221; the world, most people only want our results, our material prosperity. They don&#8217;t seem to want or be able to assimilate our &#8220;values,&#8221; &#8220;principles&#8221; or &#8220;morals.&#8221; It seems, the rest of world prefers to adopt the Franco-European mindset for those things: non-judgmental appeasement. Therefore, even as we in America who live by the Immutable Lawgiver, we are a distinct, almost statistically insignificant, minority in the world&#8217;s arena of determing behavior-value. Our temporal, cultural clout is nil, and we watch-rightfully in horror-as the Islamist do the things they do &amp; not get called on it.  The rest of the world is, subconsciously and voluntarily, incapable of rendering any kind of value judgment on that behavior.<br />
for what it&#8217;s worth&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s 2006. Do you know where your sentiments lie? by sage7</title>
		<link>http://sage7.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/its-2006-do-you-know-where-your-sentiments-lie/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>sage7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 02:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was actually posted by coloradoconservative.blogspot.com to waggle.blogspot.com and transferred here to dergeistwelt. Sorry about the confusion Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was actually posted by coloradoconservative.blogspot.com to waggle.blogspot.com and transferred here to dergeistwelt. Sorry about the confusion Steve.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s 2006. Do you know where your sentiments lie? by sage7</title>
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		<dc:creator>sage7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 02:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was actually posted by coloradoconservative.blogspot.com to waggle.blogspot.com and transferred here to dergeistwelt.  Sorry about the confusion Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was actually posted by coloradoconservative.blogspot.com to waggle.blogspot.com and transferred here to dergeistwelt.  Sorry about the confusion Steve.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cartoon Angst? by Colorado Conservative</title>
		<link>http://sage7.wordpress.com/2006/02/15/cartoon-angst/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Colorado Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the compliment! 

Excellent last paragraph! It was right to the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the compliment! </p>
<p>Excellent last paragraph! It was right to the point.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Just a Thought by mandytheobold1392</title>
		<link>http://sage7.wordpress.com/2006/01/07/just-a-thought/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>mandytheobold1392</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read over your blog, and i found it inquisitive, you may find <a HREF="http://juicyfruiter.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"> My Blog </a> interesting. My blog is just about my day to day life, as a park ranger. So please <a HREF="http://juicyfruiter.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Click Here To Read My Blog</a></p>
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